Ok, please endure me. I know this is more of a stained glass question, but I have been asked to teach a stained glass class, and you guys are the most knowledgeable (and glass is glass), so I thought I'd post it here.
Here's the options I sent to the guy who sent me the request:
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1) The Deluxe Package
For $100.00, each student gets all the materials (glass, etc.) and tools (soldering iron, etc.) and instruction time (this would be 4 hours and would assume there are over 5 students who are interested in the class) to make a small suncatcher. You would send me the money and an exact head count, and I would bring all the glass, tools, etc.
With the Deluxe Package, the students (for a nominal fee of $35 more and approximately 2 hours more of instruction time), will be instructed in how to change their very small suncatcher into a small stained glass window.
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2) The Not-So-Deluxe Package
For $50.00 per student, I teach approximately a 2.5 to 3 hour class on how to make a suncatcher, and provide in-depth information on how I make windows. For this package, I am the only one who has an iron and supplies, and the students will simply watch and take notes.
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The glass and supplies would all come from Hobby Lobby. I estimate $50 for supplies, and $50 per student for myself. So, am I getting screwed or am I cutting this guy's throat?
-Judd
P.S. And, yes, I posted this same question on a few other boards. But, you got first dibs.
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I teach a beginners fusing class ... it has been carefully worked out over a period of time ... so I'm not about to divulge all the sccrets to you here!
However, I'm not sure I understand your format ...
Of course you seem to be covering stained glass of which I have no knowledge, but in our first class the students fuse two basic small pieces after first covering safety and compatibility of different glasses ...
Generally the class is 4 weeks with 2 1/2 hours a week - the pieces are available for pickup the following day ... (they are all very local) - this coming month I am doing a 3 week version.
Supplies are a problem ... they pay a materials fee and are free to purchase more of their own supplies when they know what they desire to do and if it is a variance to what is available with the materials fee. Equipment use and tools are supplied ...
I hope that helps you somewhat ... sadie
However, I'm not sure I understand your format ...
Of course you seem to be covering stained glass of which I have no knowledge, but in our first class the students fuse two basic small pieces after first covering safety and compatibility of different glasses ...
Generally the class is 4 weeks with 2 1/2 hours a week - the pieces are available for pickup the following day ... (they are all very local) - this coming month I am doing a 3 week version.
Supplies are a problem ... they pay a materials fee and are free to purchase more of their own supplies when they know what they desire to do and if it is a variance to what is available with the materials fee. Equipment use and tools are supplied ...
I hope that helps you somewhat ... sadie
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I think $100 is a lot for one small suncatcher, do they get to keep the soldering iron? Part of it probably depends on the area you live in, too. My jewelry classes are 5 hours long and students can make up to 30 pieces in that amount of time. I charge $70 at my place, (materials included) and $100 in the city- small part of that goes to the studio I'm teaching in, kind of a rent fee. I also sell extra supplies (not necessary for the class) on the side, like extra dichroic or silver wire, findings, etc. I'm in the midwest. BTW- if you do an off-site class be sure to have a contract that states when and how you expect to be paid (either that day or when pieces are returned). I had to wait 2 months to be paid for a class I taught over the summer (my fault- no contract- learned my lesson) what a hassle!
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Thank you for your replies.
Yes, the students get to keep their supplies.
And, yes, doing it all in a 4-8 hour time limit will be tough, but the classes will be in a neighboring town, several hours away, and the guy who approached me with this whole idea stated that he wanted something that would last only 1 day.
He responded to my email, and it looks like our first face-to-face meeting will be this Monday.
Thanks again,
Judd
Yes, the students get to keep their supplies.
And, yes, doing it all in a 4-8 hour time limit will be tough, but the classes will be in a neighboring town, several hours away, and the guy who approached me with this whole idea stated that he wanted something that would last only 1 day.
He responded to my email, and it looks like our first face-to-face meeting will be this Monday.
Thanks again,
Judd
When I owned my stained glass store, and was in the business of selling supplies, I offered a beginning stained glass class for $75. This included a cheapy glass cutter, cheapy pair of breaking pliers, fid, foil, and use of my soldering irons. They completed in an 8 hour course a "mini window" pattern of thier choice, (about 1 square foot, between 10-30 pieces) I had the students purchace the glass, because everybody wanted different colors, and some were better to begin with than others. So, for roughly $100.00 total, they had a 'window' and would hopefully come back for more supplies and a second class. Besides the money, what do you want out of it? I think its good to understand your own motives to better help your students.
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