To Insulate or Not to Insulate....
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To Insulate or Not to Insulate....
Fairly new to fusing, I bought a Skutt Pinto for my first kiln. Am doing larger projects, now, requiring longer, slower anneals. Problem is that my controller is manual and I don't want to spend hours turning my temp from "Off" to "Lo" and back again. Also don't like the idea of wedging the lid open and keeping the heating element on for long periods of time.
Have heard of insulating outside the kiln with some sort of surrounding material. Any ideas? I would really appreciate your expert thoughts on this. Thanks.
Have heard of insulating outside the kiln with some sort of surrounding material. Any ideas? I would really appreciate your expert thoughts on this. Thanks.
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Hi Elizabeth,
I thought there were two types of switches for manually fired kilns. The first type is the low - medium - high settings that you have. The other is a variable switch that has numbers from 1 through (approximately) 7. I had the latter type on my manuallty fired kiln and was able to find just the right spot to hold the kiln at a particular temperature. It depended on the size of the shelf and how hot the kiln had been heated to ... but it was possible. I have heard the infinite switches from stoves work but you might want to check with a kiln supplier.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Bob
I thought there were two types of switches for manually fired kilns. The first type is the low - medium - high settings that you have. The other is a variable switch that has numbers from 1 through (approximately) 7. I had the latter type on my manuallty fired kiln and was able to find just the right spot to hold the kiln at a particular temperature. It depended on the size of the shelf and how hot the kiln had been heated to ... but it was possible. I have heard the infinite switches from stoves work but you might want to check with a kiln supplier.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Bob
Absolutely Bob, I've been using stove switches for years. In my kilns, if I'm at full fuse, 1450, then I just put my stove switch halfway between Off and 1 and the kiln will lose heat gradually and stall out around 960. Perfect. After a slump, then I turn it down to 2, and the same thing, it stalls out around 960.
My memory is so good, I can't remember the last time I forgot something . . .
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Re: To Insulate or Not to Insulate....
Somebody did a little work with the Pinto kiln and it should help.Elizabeth wrote:Fairly new to fusing, I bought a Skutt Pinto for my first kiln. Am doing larger projects, now, requiring longer, slower anneals. Problem is that my controller is manual and I don't want to spend hours turning my temp from "Off" to "Lo" and back again. Also don't like the idea of wedging the lid open and keeping the heating element on for long periods of time.
Have heard of insulating outside the kiln with some sort of surrounding material. Any ideas? I would really appreciate your expert thoughts on this. Thanks.
Try this link
http://twovoyagers.com/metamorphosis/warm/kiln.html
Ron
To Insulate or Not to Insulate
Blessings on you all for your thoughtful replies. I especially enjoyed the website info which included graphs for the infinite switch settings.
I have heard of experts putting some sort of insulation around their kiln for the annealing process when they were firing very thick glass. Does anyone know anything about what sort of insulation? Housing insulation simply doesn't sound as if it would work.
Many thanks,
Elizabeth
I have heard of experts putting some sort of insulation around their kiln for the annealing process when they were firing very thick glass. Does anyone know anything about what sort of insulation? Housing insulation simply doesn't sound as if it would work.
Many thanks,
Elizabeth
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To Insulate or Not to Insulate
Mr. Walker, Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I have your book Contemporary Warm Glass - in fact it was the text used in my SWOCC (Southwestern Oregon Community College) class on fusing. Teacher was Lucy Varoujean. It's chock full of wonderful information and I use it all the time, even now, for reference.
Fiber blanket. How and where do I get fiber blanket? Would I leave it off the controls? (I mean could they melt if I were to cover them with a blanket while annealing?)
Thank you,
Elizabeth[/code]
Fiber blanket. How and where do I get fiber blanket? Would I leave it off the controls? (I mean could they melt if I were to cover them with a blanket while annealing?)
Thank you,
Elizabeth[/code]
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Most fiber blanket is good to about 2300 degrees F. It's available from any place that sells refractory materials, or from most glass or pottery suppliers. Check the yellow pages in your area -- there are lots of refractory suppliers in your area.
For the outside of a kiln, the temperature probably doesn't reach more than 200F at most, and certainly no where near 2300F.
You should be careful handling fiber blanket, it can be harmful if you inhale the fibers.
(And thanks for buying my book, glad you're enjoying it. Your purchase helped pay for this site.)
For the outside of a kiln, the temperature probably doesn't reach more than 200F at most, and certainly no where near 2300F.
You should be careful handling fiber blanket, it can be harmful if you inhale the fibers.
(And thanks for buying my book, glad you're enjoying it. Your purchase helped pay for this site.)
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Not sure about the design of the Skutt Pinto but in most cases wrapping insulation around your kiln will cause the outside surfaces to get much hotter than they are designed for. My older kiln has a painted outside surface and I left a piece of blanket on the lid once and the paint on the lid began smoking. Also any controlls, wires, knobs that are inside the wrap may be destroyed. Your owners manual may address this issue. Mine does, and it says "do not".
Jack
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