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To Insulate or Not to Insulate....
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:33 am
by Elizabeth
Fairly new to fusing, I bought a Skutt Pinto for my first kiln. Am doing larger projects, now, requiring longer, slower anneals. Problem is that my controller is manual and I don't want to spend hours turning my temp from "Off" to "Lo" and back again. Also don't like the idea of wedging the lid open and keeping the heating element on for long periods of time.
Have heard of insulating outside the kiln with some sort of surrounding material. Any ideas? I would really appreciate your expert thoughts on this. Thanks.
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:08 am
by Bob
Hi Elizabeth,
I thought there were two types of switches for manually fired kilns. The first type is the low - medium - high settings that you have. The other is a variable switch that has numbers from 1 through (approximately) 7. I had the latter type on my manuallty fired kiln and was able to find just the right spot to hold the kiln at a particular temperature. It depended on the size of the shelf and how hot the kiln had been heated to ... but it was possible. I have heard the infinite switches from stoves work but you might want to check with a kiln supplier.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Bob
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:20 am
by Brock
Absolutely Bob, I've been using stove switches for years. In my kilns, if I'm at full fuse, 1450, then I just put my stove switch halfway between Off and 1 and the kiln will lose heat gradually and stall out around 960. Perfect. After a slump, then I turn it down to 2, and the same thing, it stalls out around 960.
Re: To Insulate or Not to Insulate....
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:31 am
by Ron Coleman
Elizabeth wrote:Fairly new to fusing, I bought a Skutt Pinto for my first kiln. Am doing larger projects, now, requiring longer, slower anneals. Problem is that my controller is manual and I don't want to spend hours turning my temp from "Off" to "Lo" and back again. Also don't like the idea of wedging the lid open and keeping the heating element on for long periods of time.
Have heard of insulating outside the kiln with some sort of surrounding material. Any ideas? I would really appreciate your expert thoughts on this. Thanks.
Somebody did a little work with the Pinto kiln and it should help.
Try this link
http://twovoyagers.com/metamorphosis/warm/kiln.html
Ron
To Insulate or Not to Insulate
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:30 pm
by Elizabeth
Blessings on you all for your thoughtful replies. I especially enjoyed the website info which included graphs for the infinite switch settings.
I have heard of experts putting some sort of insulation around their kiln for the annealing process when they were firing very thick glass. Does anyone know anything about what sort of insulation? Housing insulation simply doesn't sound as if it would work.
Many thanks,
Elizabeth
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:24 pm
by Brad Walker
You could try using fiber blanket around the kiln to help with heat loss.
To Insulate or Not to Insulate
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:34 pm
by Elizabeth
Mr. Walker,
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I have your book
Contemporary Warm Glass - in fact it was the text used in my SWOCC (Southwestern Oregon Community College) class on fusing. Teacher was Lucy Varoujean. It's chock full of wonderful information and I use it all the time, even now, for reference.
Fiber blanket. How and where do I get fiber blanket? Would I leave it off the controls? (I mean could they melt if I were to cover them with a blanket while annealing?)
Thank you,
Elizabeth[/code]
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:45 pm
by Brad Walker
Most fiber blanket is good to about 2300 degrees F. It's available from any place that sells refractory materials, or from most glass or pottery suppliers. Check the yellow pages in your area -- there are lots of refractory suppliers in your area.
For the outside of a kiln, the temperature probably doesn't reach more than 200F at most, and certainly no where near 2300F.
You should be careful handling fiber blanket, it can be harmful if you inhale the fibers.
(And thanks for buying my book, glad you're enjoying it. Your purchase helped pay for this site.)
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:55 pm
by Jack Bowman
Not sure about the design of the Skutt Pinto but in most cases wrapping insulation around your kiln will cause the outside surfaces to get much hotter than they are designed for. My older kiln has a painted outside surface and I left a piece of blanket on the lid once and the paint on the lid began smoking. Also any controlls, wires, knobs that are inside the wrap may be destroyed. Your owners manual may address this issue. Mine does, and it says "do not".
Jack