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Paradise paint & saving etch
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:06 am
by Lauralei
Help! Does anyone have any sugestions about whether or not it's possible to fire a red (dry) silk screened paradise paint on a already (oops) etched plate without losing the etch? if so what is the lowest temp I can fire the red at without losing the etch - learning can be so painful....
thanks in advance for your help.
Laura
Re: Paradise paint & saving etch
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:21 pm
by Bert Weiss
Lauralei wrote:Help! Does anyone have any sugestions about whether or not it's possible to fire a red (dry) silk screened paradise paint on a already (oops) etched plate without losing the etch? if so what is the lowest temp I can fire the red at without losing the etch - learning can be so painful....
thanks in advance for your help.
Laura
You don't say what kind of glass or what kind of etch. Regardless, you can probably get away with silkscreening a lowfire enamel that is designed to mature around 1050ºF. These are the colors that are used on decorative glassware. If you are old enough to remember, the Ronald McDonald glasses of yesteryear.
glass type
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:25 pm
by Lauralei
Sorry Bert, You're right - must be the panic.. IT's BE glass and sandblasted details (light etch)..Thanks for the temp. insight..and I do remember all of the McDonald and sadly - the jetsons colored glasswear. The literature for Paradise Paint says they mature at a highter temp but will stick to glass but be matte instead of glossy at 1150... I just don't know where I'll lose the sandblasted details and have to cut them all over again, groan.
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:47 pm
by Tony Smith
Paradise paints definetly do not gloss over until they reach temps in the 1400's. Below that, they are a real matte finish.
If you have carved details in your glass, you should be able to go to 1250 or so before you start losing the detail. If you have a simple etched surface, you'll start getting a shine on your etch over closer to 1150, but you'll still retain the edge of your blasted area.
What have you got to lose other than reblasting and another firing?
Tony
you're right
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:51 pm
by Lauralei
You're right Tony... I thought I try to salvage it .. because it was a lot of cutting details.. but I'll see what is looks like in the am.. thanks for your feedback.
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:52 pm
by Jeri D
hey, what's wrong with remembering the Jetsons. I still waiting for rosie the maid to come into my life.
anyone remember Diver Dan and what was the barracuda's name!!
Jeri,dated once again
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:10 pm
by Cynthia
Jeri Dantzig wrote:hey, what's wrong with remembering the Jetsons. I still waiting for rosie the maid to come into my life.
anyone remember Diver Dan and what was the barracuda's name!!
Jeri,dated once again
I'm pleased to announce that I am old enough to have had... but my sister has 'em now... Huckleberry Hound screened onto jelly (grape probably) jars in juice glass sizes.
Jetson's would be good too, but alas, I don't remember Diver Dan or the barracuda.
Diver dan's nemesis...
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:38 pm
by Lauralei
http://www.planetxmagazine.com/diverdan.html
Diver Dan's nemesis - the Baron Barracuda and his "hench fish" Triggerfish... Ha!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:00 am
by Jeri D
lauralei,
I am impressed
at your vast knowledge of the cartoon marionette world. I just love saying Baron Barracuda. always want to name something that. Aha, a new glass direction!
your admirer,Jeri