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Variegated red

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:14 pm
by Brad Walker
Anyone know exactly what combination of metals makes up variegated red? I know there's copper in there, but what else?

Re: Variegated red

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:21 pm
by Brock
Brad Walker wrote:Anyone know exactly what combination of metals makes up variegated red? I know there's copper in there, but what else?
Not a clue! But I wish they made it in foil. I've been working with it all day, and it tears and curls SO much more than foils. Brock

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:30 pm
by Brad Walker
Yeah, I've got a bunch of leaf, it fires a gorgeous blue (now why does something called variegated red fire to blue????)

By the way, I'm also playing with variegated green and variegated black -- they are similar, except less vivid blue and more black. I suspect the black is aluminum, and would imagine there's a little silver in there also. If I could get a recipe from somewhere, I'd try to make something a little thicker.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:39 pm
by Dani
Have you tried posting on a jewelry/metalsmithing board? Artists who work in Japanese metal blends like mokume gane could probably advise you ... also about milling the sheets to desired thickness.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:58 pm
by Brad Walker
Dani wrote:Have you tried posting on a jewelry/metalsmithing board? Artists who work in Japanese metal blends like mokume gane could probably advise you ... also about milling the sheets to desired thickness.
Good idea about posting on a metalsmithing board, I'll try that.

This isn't an isue of milling, as far as I can tell the material's only available in leaf, not in sheets. If I could find sheets, I'd be home free.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:31 pm
by Ron Coleman
Sounds like it's copper or a copper alloy, aka "brass"

http://www.goldreverre.com/technique/gildingleaf.html

Try a little torch work on thin copper and see what happens, greens, purples,reds blues. Too much heat and "poof" it's gone

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:55 pm
by Brad Walker
You're right, it's definitely an alloy with copper, just trying to figure out how what I need to mix with the copper to make some sheets of it.

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:03 am
by Ron Coleman