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				Signature
				Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:30 pm
				by fun5oh
				What sort of marker can be used to sign my work before I fuse, the signature would be put on before the 2nd firing of a clear cap.
Thanks,
Robin 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:48 pm
				by Bebe
				A gold pen works best between firings, although it will come out a little grainy.  Or use Paradise paints.  Personally, I like to use a dremel with a diamond bit and engrave my name after everything is done - it's just more subtle.  Some people put a little symbol for their name, like a heart, cut from 1/4 fiber paper and put it under the piece on the last firing.  (Can't put it between layers 'cause you'd never get it out!) Just some thoughts - hope it helps. 
PS I suggest NOT putting a date on anything you plan on selling!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:14 pm
				by Marty
				Re dating your work- I thought it was important until a gallery told me otherwise.  It makes it hard to sell those good but slow-moving items a few years after you make/sign them, and your work has changed drastically.  Marty
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:51 am
				by Mike Byers
				The small, conical bit that dentists used to use--my dentist told me they aren't used much these days so you can often get them from a dentist for free--work very well in a Dremel or Fordham tool.  The small point makes them very controlable when signing glass.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:44 pm
				by fun5oh
				Well, I tried a test with Pilot gold metallic paint marker on black with a clear cap, it practically vanished.  What brand marker can withstand fusing temps?
Thanks,
Robin 

 
			
					
				Signature
				Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:49 pm
				by Alecia Helton
				Try the FERRO Ceramic  GoldRush Pen.  I haven't bought tem directly, only purchased them from a former instructor so I can't tell you where to get them.  They work wll until the felt tip wears out.
Alecia
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:58 pm
				by fun5oh
				Thanks for the tip, I'll try to find one
Robin 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:49 am
				by Tom White
				Look in your local hobby ceramic or pottery suppliers.
Best wishes,
Tom in Texas
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:59 pm
				by stargazer
				We want to sign/engrave our name on our clear glass work.  We want it to be very small but legible.  Does anyone know of a great tool for performing this?  Thank you.  Sheryl
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:19 pm
				by Paul Tarlow
				cephas wrote:We want to sign/engrave our name on our clear glass work.  We want it to be very small but legible.  Does anyone know of a great tool for performing this?  Thank you.  Sheryl
A Dremel or Foredom tool with a diamond bit will work.  Most stained glass stores also sell inexpensive engraving tools.
The faster the bit spins the easier it will be to control -- which is why something like "Turbo Carver" (
http://www.turbocarver.com) -- which spins at 450,000 times each minute -- is ideal.  It is also pricey and probably not worth it if all you are using it for is to sign work.
- Paul
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:17 pm
				by Tony Serviente
				I use a dremel with a sixteenth bit for signing. The bits are cheap and they last a long time.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:53 am
				by Lynn g
				I got a ferro pen from Fusion Headquarters (
http://www.fusionheadquarters.com).  They recommend firing on top or between layers to 1050-1150 degrees F.
Lynn g
 
			
					
				Dates
				Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:27 am
				by Lionel
				Dating a piece is not a good idea - Date Codes Are.  It allow you to not only authenticate a piece as your but also gives a date of creation.
day 1=a 2=b 3=c
month 1=12 2=11 3=10
year  w=2001 y=2002 z=2010
V12S = 1/12/2004
You have to be consistant and it can be any combination you want.
			 
			
					
				Edition number?
				Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:36 am
				by Lauri Levanto
				In graphic art the prints are signed and numbered.
In sculpture, too it is customary to number
the pieced like 8/12.
I have used this for small edition slumps.
When you say that date is detrimental,
how is it with edition number?
-lauri