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paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:59 pm
by raphy
Sounds silly but can I put a picture inbetween two pieces of glass. Would it burn out? or worse cause a fire?
Thank you. Raphy

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:11 pm
by Bert Weiss
To burn it needs oxygen. Without oxygen it will become charcoal. With oxygen it will become fire.

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:03 pm
by Morganica
The organics will usually burn out in the kiln and may or may not leave a bit of ash behind--most layups aren't airtight and at burnout temps (600-700F) the glass hasn't yet softened and sealed in/out air. The real question is, though, what else the paper leaves behind. Some inks can stain the glass or leave a residue, and some types of paper have clay or other coatings that can also leave residue.

Also depends on how much you're using. A postage stamp-sized piece of blank cheap newsprint probably won't do much. A big piece of glossy cardstock with a photograph and text printed on both sides might. Some of the inks might stain the glass and cause a visible reaction; others won't, so you might or might not get a nice result.

If it causes a fire, it's in a kiln, which is a pretty fireproof place. I wouldn't worry unless you're burning something like the Sunday New York Times and the flames start to lick out of the vents. There is a chance that combustion could be fast enough to jolt the glass and cause it to shift position but again, you'd need a bunch of paper relative to the amount of glass.

If you're trying to fuse a photograph into glass and have it look like a photograph, search this site for "screen printing," "photo transfers," and "print-making." You'll find a fair amount of information on how to get images into glass. The folks who own this site have written a book about these techniques that's worth a look.

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:10 pm
by Bert Weiss
I have to laugh, Cynthia. Many years ago, my girlfriend was a novice jeweler. She decided to make a silver casting of a tiny plastic moose. She used the lost, little plastic moose method, of casting. She invested it with sprues and stuck it in the kiln. A fire ensued that almost killed the elements in the kiln. I have had and loved the silver moose for 30 some years. That was the last time she employed the technique...

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:50 pm
by AndyT
I've taken a piece of BE thin fire did a small drawing with pencil and placed it between a base of black and clear top and it turned out fine.

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:24 pm
by Morganica
AndyT wrote:I've taken a piece of BE thin fire did a small drawing with pencil and placed it between a base of black and clear top and it turned out fine.
...and then there's leaving a layer of graphite between the glass... ;-)

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:04 pm
by Peter Angel
You could try putting kiln paper (eg bullseye thinfire) between 2 sheets of glass and fuse all that together.

I have no idea what might happen.

Pete

Re: paper between two sheets of glass

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:50 pm
by GlassCat
Glass line sells a line of colored papers that are ment to be fired between sheets of glass. Guess what it's made of?? Thin fire!!!